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PostSubject: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:56 pm

Since People call me the conspiracy Guy a lot, i figured i will go ahead and post a few videos here, and you can watch them if you are really interested , Maybe when you have nothing better to do.

Carpe Diem
-Toryin
Ps. if you wish to critisize me because of your own believes , I would suggest to Inform/educate yourself about the topic and look at all the facts, also form your own opinion on this Video Material by wachting, before complaining...Then we can argue on a fair Basis.
Truth is Truth and always gets revealed
The last 3 VIDEOS are highly informative and i once again would like to recommend watching these.
Also if you really watched the viewing material and kind of understand what is really going on you can go all the way down and read what Paul Craig Roberts has to say on his farewell editorial Post, he was The Hottest and most cited Wall street Journal editor on the globe and also former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury.
IT IS WORTH READING and you will thank me if all of this was unknown to you.

lemme start of with something Funny Smile before it gets serious


Jesse ventura knows the Deal ;-) this is so funny

Funny look at joe bidens eyes when the Young Brave American Speaks the Truth :-)


Ok now more serious stuff
Here a Brave (former) Service Members who still puts his life and career on the line defending his country



Here an amateur Vid filmed during explosion(demolition) of WTC7, only the edited version aired on Mainstream TV, without explosion, Several hundred people heard the explosions right before the buildings colapsed




Here starts the Long documentations which you should watch if you really want to b informed
i am sure after watching these you will start on your own research and find out the truth that you believe, Please Dont never believe what others tell you, when it is a topic of such high importance.






everybody has prolly watched this one hear , i dont agree with everyting pertaining religion....but the 2 and 3 are right on

Zeitgeist: The Movie - 2007 by Peter Joseph from ZeitgeistMovie.com on Vimeo.



These last ones should get you started on your path for research *G*



NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - 9/11 PENTAGON ATTACK from Citizen Investigation Team on Vimeo.


Truth Has Fallen and Taken Liberty With It

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

There was a time when the pen was mightier than the sword. That was a time when people believed in truth and regarded truth as an independent power and not as an auxiliary for government, class, race, ideological, personal, or financial interest.

Today Americans are ruled by propaganda. Americans have little regard for truth, little access to it, and little ability to recognize it.

Truth is an unwelcome entity. It is disturbing. It is off limits. Those who speak it run the risk of being branded “anti-American,” “anti-semite” or “conspiracy theorist.”

Truth is an inconvenience for government and for the interest groups whose campaign contributions control government.

Truth is an inconvenience for prosecutors who want convictions, not the discovery of innocence or guilt.

Truth is inconvenient for ideologues.

Today many whose goal once was the discovery of truth are now paid handsomely to hide it. “Free market economists” are paid to sell offshoring to the American people. High-productivity, high value-added American jobs are denigrated as dirty, old industrial jobs. Relicts from long ago, we are best shed of them. Their place has been taken by “the New Economy,” a mythical economy that allegedly consists of high-tech white collar jobs in which Americans innovate and finance activities that occur offshore. All Americans need in order to participate in this “new economy” are finance degrees from Ivy League universities, and then they will work on Wall Street at million dollar jobs.

Economists who were once respectable took money to contribute to this myth of “the New Economy.”

And not only economists sell their souls for filthy lucre. Recently we have had reports of medical doctors who, for money, have published in peer-reviewed journals concocted “studies” that hype this or that new medicine produced by pharmaceutical companies that paid for the “studies.”

The Council of Europe is investigating the drug companies’ role in hyping a false swine flu pandemic in order to gain billions of dollars in sales of the vaccine.

The media helped the US military hype its recent Marja offensive in Afghanistan, describing Marja as a city of 80,000 under Taliban control. It turns out that Marja is not urban but a collection of village farms.

And there is the global warming scandal, in which NGOs. the UN, and the nuclear industry colluded in concocting a doomsday scenario in order to create profit in pollution.

Wherever one looks, truth has fallen to money.

Wherever money is insufficient to bury the truth, ignorance, propaganda, and short memories finish the job.

I remember when, following CIA director William Colby’s testimony before the Church Committee in the mid-1970s, presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan issued executive orders preventing the CIA and U.S. black-op groups from assassinating foreign leaders. In 2010 the US Congress was told by Dennis Blair, head of national intelligence, that the US now assassinates its own citizens in addition to foreign leaders.

When Blair told the House Intelligence Committee that US citizens no longer needed to be arrested, charged, tried, and convicted of a capital crime, just murdered on suspicion alone of being a “threat,” he wasn’t impeached. No investigation pursued. Nothing happened. There was no Church Committee. In the mid-1970s the CIA got into trouble for plots to kill Castro. Today it is American citizens who are on the hit list. Whatever objections there might be don’t carry any weight. No one in government is in any trouble over the assassination of U.S. citizens by the U.S. government.

As an economist, I am astonished that the American economics profession has no awareness whatsoever that the U.S. economy has been destroyed by the offshoring of U.S. GDP to overseas countries. U.S. corporations, in pursuit of absolute advantage or lowest labor costs and maximum CEO “performance bonuses,” have moved the production of goods and services marketed to Americans to China, India, and elsewhere abroad. When I read economists describe offshoring as free trade based on comparative advantage, I realize that there is no intelligence or integrity in the American economics profession.

Intelligence and integrity have been purchased by money. The transnational or global U.S. corporations pay multi-million dollar compensation packages to top managers, who achieve these “performance awards” by replacing U.S. labor with foreign labor. While Washington worries about “the Muslim threat,” Wall Street, U.S. corporations and “free market” shills destroy the U.S. economy and the prospects of tens of millions of Americans.

Americans, or most of them, have proved to be putty in the hands of the police state.

Americans have bought into the government’s claim that security requires the suspension of civil liberties and accountable government. Astonishingly, Americans, or most of them, believe that civil liberties, such as habeas corpus and due process, protect “terrorists,” and not themselves. Many also believe that the Constitution is a tired old document that prevents government from exercising the kind of police state powers necessary to keep Americans safe and free.

Most Americans are unlikely to hear from anyone who would tell them any different.

I was associate editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal. I was Business Week’s first outside columnist, a position I held for 15 years. I was columnist for a decade for Scripps Howard News Service, carried in 300 newspapers. I was a columnist for the Washington Times and for newspapers in France and Italy and for a magazine in Germany. I was a contributor to the New York Times and a regular feature in the Los Angeles Times. Today I cannot publish in, or appear on, the American “mainstream media.”

For the last six years I have been banned from the “mainstream media.” My last column in the New York Times appeared in January, 2004, coauthored with Democratic U.S. Senator Charles Schumer representing New York. We addressed the offshoring of U.S. jobs. Our op-ed article produced a conference at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. and live coverage by C-Span. A debate was launched. No such thing could happen today.

For years I was a mainstay at the Washington Times, producing credibility for the Moony newspaper as a Business Week columnist, former Wall Street Journal editor, and former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. But when I began criticizing Bush’s wars of aggression, the order came down to Mary Lou Forbes to cancel my column.

The American corporate media does not serve the truth. It serves the government and the interest groups that empower the government.

America’s fate was sealed when the public and the anti-war movement bought the government’s 9/11 conspiracy theory. The government’s account of 9/11 is contradicted by much evidence. Nevertheless, this defining event of our time, which has launched the US on interminable wars of aggression and a domestic police state, is a taboo topic for investigation in the media. It is pointless to complain of war and a police state when one accepts the premise upon which they are based.

These trillion dollar wars have created financing problems for Washington’s deficits and threaten the U.S. dollar’s role as world reserve currency. The wars and the pressure that the budget deficits put on the dollar’s value have put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block. Former Goldman Sachs chairman and U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson is after these protections for the elderly. Fed chairman Bernanke is also after them. The Republicans are after them as well. These protections are called “entitlements” as if they are some sort of welfare that people have not paid for in payroll taxes all their working lives.

With over 21 per cent unemployment as measured by the methodology of 1980, with American jobs, GDP, and technology having been given to China and India, with war being Washington’s greatest commitment, with the dollar over-burdened with debt, with civil liberty sacrificed to the “war on terror,” the liberty and prosperity of the American people have been thrown into the trash bin of history.

The militarism of the U.S. and Israeli states, and Wall Street and corporate greed, will now run their course. As the pen is censored and its might extinguished, I am signing off.
-edit over
If you are one of the view people who watched these vids and read thru to hear i know that you are awake and i dont want you to go out in rage or do something stupid , but just go on with your life and try to b a good father ,son , brother, husband and help our countrey regain its strength and Dont forget to vote for whoever you think is right also use your right to demonstrate , but never resort to violence because then you will b discredited and only others like you will get hurt.
THX
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There are many more videos but the rest you will have to find out yourself while you seek for info
or just e-mail/PM me

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Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven"Look before you leap"Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "The end justifies the means." Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "Who fights can lose, who doesn't fight has already lost" Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:11 pm

Heh, not alot of people would like my views on things. Im here if ya want to give em a shot, just ask. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:21 pm

Boy, Jon stwart is Hilarious. Sorry but I dont understand American politics alot. I understand it but at same time I aint so interested in it. But as I see the they Daily show Youtube the media must be trying to Hide Paul since he wants to end the wars and propaganda while that might not be in the interests for the US Government since they might still need a war?? Or maybe the Media just want more war media coverage. Those are my guesses to be honest.
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:26 pm

too much teaxt
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:36 pm

damn man did you watch all of those
tl;dr and tl;dw plz Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:33 am

Toryin wrote:

everybody has prolly watched this one hear , i dont agree with everyting pertaining religion....but the 2 and 3 are right on


I agree strongly with the religion part in this video. It is basically the way I see religion.
Thanks for posting these videos Toryin! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:48 am

I thought this was hilarious... and I'm not intending to anger anyone.

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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:23 am

splintercellsz wrote:
I thought this was hilarious... and I'm not intending to anger anyone.


It sounds Crazy as hell Twisted Evil and its just one of many christian interpretations
Religion is only based on believes...Not Facts , Thats y it would only bring endless discussions, as nobdy can proof that they are right..Even atheists only can believe:-)
, this sounds like the catholic,Baptist,evangelic versions that are haevily influenced by pagan( christmas, Easter) and other old world religions .
I grew up to believe in the bible, as i really recognized the True wisdom in it , Through my grandma beeing jehova witness ,they thoroughly study the bible and do not believe that jehova(god) and Jesus are the same person, Jesus was not born on x.mas and the Devil owns this world (thats y he offered it to jesus on mt. olive), also we do not beleive in hell(shoell) and would never drink from the wine or eat the bread as this is only for the ones who will go to heaven and reign with jesus over gods kingdom which will decent on earth( in a big space ship ) LOL
I also c wisdom in the Koran and my friend is a true muslim, who would never kill anyone and has True love for God. but y should i b right if he is not? what about the millions of people in asia or elsewhere? will they perish cause they had the badluck of not beeing born in the middle east or europe?? and thus were no jews,muslims, christians...thats BULL
and not to forgett the flying spaghetti monster people their god is tasty.
only if you would know the truth for certain and not follow it , only then god would judge you, as long as its only believe nobody can b sure or claim to b correct
So much for religon ,
but if you look at it in another context it does make sense, as angels are aliens and
god(transdimensional beeing) can surley clone another person out of a rip (we can do it from cells, aswell)
LOL maybe we can feast from sunlight in the future and take in all our energy thru neutrons which our body will then trasonform in to what ever Molecule(vitamins,proteins,carbs etc. we need it.
can we go back to the real topic? the ones we do have proof for?
;-)




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Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "A danger foreseen is a danger avoided." Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven"Look before you leap"Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "The end justifies the means." Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "Who fights can lose, who doesn't fight has already lost" Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:46 pm

watch Supernatural [youtube][/youtube]
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:55 pm

Toryin wrote:
Since People call me the conspiracy Guy a lot, i figured i will go ahead and post a few videos here, and you can watch them if you are really interested , Maybe when you have nothing better to do.

Carpe Diem
-Toryin
Ps. if you wish to critisize me because of your own believes , I would suggest to Inform/educate yourself about the topic and look at all the facts, also form your own opinion on this Video Material by wachting, before complaining...Then we can argue on a fair Basis.
Truth is Truth and always gets revealed
The last 3 VIDEOS are highly informative and i once again would like to recommend watching these.
Also if you really watched the viewing material and kind of understand what is really going on you can go all the way down and read what Paul Craig Roberts has to say on his farewell editorial Post, he was The Hottest and most cited Wall street Journal editor on the globe and also former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury.
IT IS WORTH READING and you will thank me if all of this was unknown to you.

lemme start of with something Funny Smile before it gets serious


Jesse ventura knows the Deal ;-) this is so funny

Funny look at joe bidens eyes when the Young Brave American Speaks the Truth :-)


Ok now more serious stuff
Here a Brave (former) Service Members who still puts his life and career on the line defending his country



Here an amateur Vid filmed during explosion(demolition) of WTC7, only the edited version aired on Mainstream TV, without explosion, Several hundred people heard the explosions right before the buildings colapsed




Here starts the Long documentations which you should watch if you really want to b informed
i am sure after watching these you will start on your own research and find out the truth that you believe, Please Dont never believe what others tell you, when it is a topic of such high importance.






everybody has prolly watched this one hear , i dont agree with everyting pertaining religion....but the 2 and 3 are right on

These last ones should get you started on your path for research *G*



NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - 9/11 PENTAGON ATTACK from Citizen Investigation Team on Vimeo.


Truth Has Fallen and Taken Liberty With It

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

There was a time when the pen was mightier than the sword. That was a time when people believed in truth and regarded truth as an independent power and not as an auxiliary for government, class, race, ideological, personal, or financial interest.

Today Americans are ruled by propaganda. Americans have little regard for truth, little access to it, and little ability to recognize it.

Truth is an unwelcome entity. It is disturbing. It is off limits. Those who speak it run the risk of being branded “anti-American,” “anti-semite” or “conspiracy theorist.”

Truth is an inconvenience for government and for the interest groups whose campaign contributions control government.

Truth is an inconvenience for prosecutors who want convictions, not the discovery of innocence or guilt.

Truth is inconvenient for ideologues.

Today many whose goal once was the discovery of truth are now paid handsomely to hide it. “Free market economists” are paid to sell offshoring to the American people. High-productivity, high value-added American jobs are denigrated as dirty, old industrial jobs. Relicts from long ago, we are best shed of them. Their place has been taken by “the New Economy,” a mythical economy that allegedly consists of high-tech white collar jobs in which Americans innovate and finance activities that occur offshore. All Americans need in order to participate in this “new economy” are finance degrees from Ivy League universities, and then they will work on Wall Street at million dollar jobs.

Economists who were once respectable took money to contribute to this myth of “the New Economy.”

And not only economists sell their souls for filthy lucre. Recently we have had reports of medical doctors who, for money, have published in peer-reviewed journals concocted “studies” that hype this or that new medicine produced by pharmaceutical companies that paid for the “studies.”

The Council of Europe is investigating the drug companies’ role in hyping a false swine flu pandemic in order to gain billions of dollars in sales of the vaccine.

The media helped the US military hype its recent Marja offensive in Afghanistan, describing Marja as a city of 80,000 under Taliban control. It turns out that Marja is not urban but a collection of village farms.

And there is the global warming scandal, in which NGOs. the UN, and the nuclear industry colluded in concocting a doomsday scenario in order to create profit in pollution.

Wherever one looks, truth has fallen to money.

Wherever money is insufficient to bury the truth, ignorance, propaganda, and short memories finish the job.

I remember when, following CIA director William Colby’s testimony before the Church Committee in the mid-1970s, presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan issued executive orders preventing the CIA and U.S. black-op groups from assassinating foreign leaders. In 2010 the US Congress was told by Dennis Blair, head of national intelligence, that the US now assassinates its own citizens in addition to foreign leaders.

When Blair told the House Intelligence Committee that US citizens no longer needed to be arrested, charged, tried, and convicted of a capital crime, just murdered on suspicion alone of being a “threat,” he wasn’t impeached. No investigation pursued. Nothing happened. There was no Church Committee. In the mid-1970s the CIA got into trouble for plots to kill Castro. Today it is American citizens who are on the hit list. Whatever objections there might be don’t carry any weight. No one in government is in any trouble over the assassination of U.S. citizens by the U.S. government.

As an economist, I am astonished that the American economics profession has no awareness whatsoever that the U.S. economy has been destroyed by the offshoring of U.S. GDP to overseas countries. U.S. corporations, in pursuit of absolute advantage or lowest labor costs and maximum CEO “performance bonuses,” have moved the production of goods and services marketed to Americans to China, India, and elsewhere abroad. When I read economists describe offshoring as free trade based on comparative advantage, I realize that there is no intelligence or integrity in the American economics profession.

Intelligence and integrity have been purchased by money. The transnational or global U.S. corporations pay multi-million dollar compensation packages to top managers, who achieve these “performance awards” by replacing U.S. labor with foreign labor. While Washington worries about “the Muslim threat,” Wall Street, U.S. corporations and “free market” shills destroy the U.S. economy and the prospects of tens of millions of Americans.

Americans, or most of them, have proved to be putty in the hands of the police state.

Americans have bought into the government’s claim that security requires the suspension of civil liberties and accountable government. Astonishingly, Americans, or most of them, believe that civil liberties, such as habeas corpus and due process, protect “terrorists,” and not themselves. Many also believe that the Constitution is a tired old document that prevents government from exercising the kind of police state powers necessary to keep Americans safe and free.

Most Americans are unlikely to hear from anyone who would tell them any different.

I was associate editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal. I was Business Week’s first outside columnist, a position I held for 15 years. I was columnist for a decade for Scripps Howard News Service, carried in 300 newspapers. I was a columnist for the Washington Times and for newspapers in France and Italy and for a magazine in Germany. I was a contributor to the New York Times and a regular feature in the Los Angeles Times. Today I cannot publish in, or appear on, the American “mainstream media.”

For the last six years I have been banned from the “mainstream media.” My last column in the New York Times appeared in January, 2004, coauthored with Democratic U.S. Senator Charles Schumer representing New York. We addressed the offshoring of U.S. jobs. Our op-ed article produced a conference at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. and live coverage by C-Span. A debate was launched. No such thing could happen today.

For years I was a mainstay at the Washington Times, producing credibility for the Moony newspaper as a Business Week columnist, former Wall Street Journal editor, and former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. But when I began criticizing Bush’s wars of aggression, the order came down to Mary Lou Forbes to cancel my column.

The American corporate media does not serve the truth. It serves the government and the interest groups that empower the government.

America’s fate was sealed when the public and the anti-war movement bought the government’s 9/11 conspiracy theory. The government’s account of 9/11 is contradicted by much evidence. Nevertheless, this defining event of our time, which has launched the US on interminable wars of aggression and a domestic police state, is a taboo topic for investigation in the media. It is pointless to complain of war and a police state when one accepts the premise upon which they are based.

These trillion dollar wars have created financing problems for Washington’s deficits and threaten the U.S. dollar’s role as world reserve currency. The wars and the pressure that the budget deficits put on the dollar’s value have put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block. Former Goldman Sachs chairman and U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson is after these protections for the elderly. Fed chairman Bernanke is also after them. The Republicans are after them as well. These protections are called “entitlements” as if they are some sort of welfare that people have not paid for in payroll taxes all their working lives.

With over 21 per cent unemployment as measured by the methodology of 1980, with American jobs, GDP, and technology having been given to China and India, with war being Washington’s greatest commitment, with the dollar over-burdened with debt, with civil liberty sacrificed to the “war on terror,” the liberty and prosperity of the American people have been thrown into the trash bin of history.

The militarism of the U.S. and Israeli states, and Wall Street and corporate greed, will now run their course. As the pen is censored and its might extinguished, I am signing off.
-edit over
If you are one of the view people who watched these vids and read thru to hear i know that you are awake and i dont want you to go out in rage or do something stupid , but just go on with your life and try to b a good father ,son , brother, husband and help our countrey regain its strength and Dont forget to vote for whoever you think is right also use your right to demonstrate , but never resort to violence because then you will b discredited and only others like you will get hurt.
THX
Tyrone
There are many more videos but the rest you will have to find out yourself while you seek for info
or just e-mail/PM me
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Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "A danger foreseen is a danger avoided." Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven"Look before you leap"Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "The end justifies the means." Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "Who fights can lose, who doesn't fight has already lost" Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven * "Practice makes perfect." Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:50 pm

9/11 is a huge attack on its own people. So much prro has been presented on that topic, yet people find it so hard to believe that the Government would kill its own people. But look at the 1920's (or whenever it was) prohibition. The Government intentionally poisoned alcohol, leading to thousands of people dying, and being super sick. History always repeats itself.
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:03 pm

Toryin wrote:
Since People call me the conspiracy Guy a lot, i figured i will go ahead and post a few videos here, and you can watch them if you are really interested , Maybe when you have nothing better to do.

Carpe Diem
-Toryin
Ps. if you wish to critisize me because of your own believes , I would suggest to Inform/educate yourself about the topic and look at all the facts, also form your own opinion on this Video Material by wachting, before complaining...Then we can argue on a fair Basis.
Truth is Truth and always gets revealed
The last 3 VIDEOS are highly informative and i once again would like to recommend watching these.
Also if you really watched the viewing material and kind of understand what is really going on you can go all the way down and read what Paul Craig Roberts has to say on his farewell editorial Post, he was The Hottest and most cited Wall street Journal editor on the globe and also former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury.
IT IS WORTH READING and you will thank me if all of this was unknown to you.

lemme start of with something Funny Smile before it gets serious


Jesse ventura knows the Deal ;-) this is so funny

Funny look at joe bidens eyes when the Young Brave American Speaks the Truth :-)


Ok now more serious stuff
Here a Brave (former) Service Members who still puts his life and career on the line defending his country



Here an amateur Vid filmed during explosion(demolition) of WTC7, only the edited version aired on Mainstream TV, without explosion, Several hundred people heard the explosions right before the buildings colapsed




Here starts the Long documentations which you should watch if you really want to b informed
i am sure after watching these you will start on your own research and find out the truth that you believe, Please Dont never believe what others tell you, when it is a topic of such high importance.






everybody has prolly watched this one hear , i dont agree with everyting pertaining religion....but the 2 and 3 are right on

These last ones should get you started on your path for research *G*



NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - 9/11 PENTAGON ATTACK from Citizen Investigation Team on Vimeo.


Truth Has Fallen and Taken Liberty With It

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

There was a time when the pen was mightier than the sword. That was a time when people believed in truth and regarded truth as an independent power and not as an auxiliary for government, class, race, ideological, personal, or financial interest.

Today Americans are ruled by propaganda. Americans have little regard for truth, little access to it, and little ability to recognize it.

Truth is an unwelcome entity. It is disturbing. It is off limits. Those who speak it run the risk of being branded “anti-American,” “anti-semite” or “conspiracy theorist.”

Truth is an inconvenience for government and for the interest groups whose campaign contributions control government.

Truth is an inconvenience for prosecutors who want convictions, not the discovery of innocence or guilt.

Truth is inconvenient for ideologues.

Today many whose goal once was the discovery of truth are now paid handsomely to hide it. “Free market economists” are paid to sell offshoring to the American people. High-productivity, high value-added American jobs are denigrated as dirty, old industrial jobs. Relicts from long ago, we are best shed of them. Their place has been taken by “the New Economy,” a mythical economy that allegedly consists of high-tech white collar jobs in which Americans innovate and finance activities that occur offshore. All Americans need in order to participate in this “new economy” are finance degrees from Ivy League universities, and then they will work on Wall Street at million dollar jobs.

Economists who were once respectable took money to contribute to this myth of “the New Economy.”

And not only economists sell their souls for filthy lucre. Recently we have had reports of medical doctors who, for money, have published in peer-reviewed journals concocted “studies” that hype this or that new medicine produced by pharmaceutical companies that paid for the “studies.”

The Council of Europe is investigating the drug companies’ role in hyping a false swine flu pandemic in order to gain billions of dollars in sales of the vaccine.

The media helped the US military hype its recent Marja offensive in Afghanistan, describing Marja as a city of 80,000 under Taliban control. It turns out that Marja is not urban but a collection of village farms.

And there is the global warming scandal, in which NGOs. the UN, and the nuclear industry colluded in concocting a doomsday scenario in order to create profit in pollution.

Wherever one looks, truth has fallen to money.

Wherever money is insufficient to bury the truth, ignorance, propaganda, and short memories finish the job.

I remember when, following CIA director William Colby’s testimony before the Church Committee in the mid-1970s, presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan issued executive orders preventing the CIA and U.S. black-op groups from assassinating foreign leaders. In 2010 the US Congress was told by Dennis Blair, head of national intelligence, that the US now assassinates its own citizens in addition to foreign leaders.

When Blair told the House Intelligence Committee that US citizens no longer needed to be arrested, charged, tried, and convicted of a capital crime, just murdered on suspicion alone of being a “threat,” he wasn’t impeached. No investigation pursued. Nothing happened. There was no Church Committee. In the mid-1970s the CIA got into trouble for plots to kill Castro. Today it is American citizens who are on the hit list. Whatever objections there might be don’t carry any weight. No one in government is in any trouble over the assassination of U.S. citizens by the U.S. government.

As an economist, I am astonished that the American economics profession has no awareness whatsoever that the U.S. economy has been destroyed by the offshoring of U.S. GDP to overseas countries. U.S. corporations, in pursuit of absolute advantage or lowest labor costs and maximum CEO “performance bonuses,” have moved the production of goods and services marketed to Americans to China, India, and elsewhere abroad. When I read economists describe offshoring as free trade based on comparative advantage, I realize that there is no intelligence or integrity in the American economics profession.

Intelligence and integrity have been purchased by money. The transnational or global U.S. corporations pay multi-million dollar compensation packages to top managers, who achieve these “performance awards” by replacing U.S. labor with foreign labor. While Washington worries about “the Muslim threat,” Wall Street, U.S. corporations and “free market” shills destroy the U.S. economy and the prospects of tens of millions of Americans.

Americans, or most of them, have proved to be putty in the hands of the police state.

Americans have bought into the government’s claim that security requires the suspension of civil liberties and accountable government. Astonishingly, Americans, or most of them, believe that civil liberties, such as habeas corpus and due process, protect “terrorists,” and not themselves. Many also believe that the Constitution is a tired old document that prevents government from exercising the kind of police state powers necessary to keep Americans safe and free.

Most Americans are unlikely to hear from anyone who would tell them any different.

I was associate editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal. I was Business Week’s first outside columnist, a position I held for 15 years. I was columnist for a decade for Scripps Howard News Service, carried in 300 newspapers. I was a columnist for the Washington Times and for newspapers in France and Italy and for a magazine in Germany. I was a contributor to the New York Times and a regular feature in the Los Angeles Times. Today I cannot publish in, or appear on, the American “mainstream media.”

For the last six years I have been banned from the “mainstream media.” My last column in the New York Times appeared in January, 2004, coauthored with Democratic U.S. Senator Charles Schumer representing New York. We addressed the offshoring of U.S. jobs. Our op-ed article produced a conference at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. and live coverage by C-Span. A debate was launched. No such thing could happen today.

For years I was a mainstay at the Washington Times, producing credibility for the Moony newspaper as a Business Week columnist, former Wall Street Journal editor, and former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. But when I began criticizing Bush’s wars of aggression, the order came down to Mary Lou Forbes to cancel my column.

The American corporate media does not serve the truth. It serves the government and the interest groups that empower the government.

America’s fate was sealed when the public and the anti-war movement bought the government’s 9/11 conspiracy theory. The government’s account of 9/11 is contradicted by much evidence. Nevertheless, this defining event of our time, which has launched the US on interminable wars of aggression and a domestic police state, is a taboo topic for investigation in the media. It is pointless to complain of war and a police state when one accepts the premise upon which they are based.

These trillion dollar wars have created financing problems for Washington’s deficits and threaten the U.S. dollar’s role as world reserve currency. The wars and the pressure that the budget deficits put on the dollar’s value have put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block. Former Goldman Sachs chairman and U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson is after these protections for the elderly. Fed chairman Bernanke is also after them. The Republicans are after them as well. These protections are called “entitlements” as if they are some sort of welfare that people have not paid for in payroll taxes all their working lives.

With over 21 per cent unemployment as measured by the methodology of 1980, with American jobs, GDP, and technology having been given to China and India, with war being Washington’s greatest commitment, with the dollar over-burdened with debt, with civil liberty sacrificed to the “war on terror,” the liberty and prosperity of the American people have been thrown into the trash bin of history.

The militarism of the U.S. and Israeli states, and Wall Street and corporate greed, will now run their course. As the pen is censored and its might extinguished, I am signing off.
-edit over
If you are one of the view people who watched these vids and read thru to hear i know that you are awake and i dont want you to go out in rage or do something stupid , but just go on with your life and try to b a good father ,son , brother, husband and help our countrey regain its strength and Dont forget to vote for whoever you think is right also use your right to demonstrate , but never resort to violence because then you will b discredited and only others like you will get hurt.
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:38 pm

I'm going to proceed to kick small puppies. The Pentagon and 9/11 were U.S operated? Please youtube, BULLSHIT THE PUBLIC MORE! Actually, hell with the small puppies, I'm going to go kick 1 homeless child for every youtube video there is like these.

Needless to say, the city of Pittsburgh is going to wake up to the sound of crying and moaning homeless kids.
















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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:48 am

Hey Toryin,

Thanks for the info man. I just read Paul Craig's article... It's amazing. It's the testimony of a man that has given everything for the truth. But I guess It's kind of sad he does seem to say goodbye on that article, like he has given up on this... He may be right thought.

I haven't watched the videos yet. But I'll do that tomorrow.

Also, I hope the "conspiracy guy" thing doesn't bother you. You know I—and I'm sure everyone else too—respect you. You'll never hear that "label" from me.
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:35 am

Thx NMD
I appreciate your comment
Very Happy conspiracy guy is cool , cause that is alwyays my call to start talking crazy in vent and usualy someone cares enough to acutaly verify if im just BS or not...
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:58 pm

I figured this is the best place to bring this up.

The article below speaks volumes of the kind of crap that passes for "mainstream economic thought" in the USA these days :

"Paul Krugman: Fake Alien Invasion Would End Economic Slump"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/15/paul-krugman-fake-alien-invasion_n_926995.html

Three words : "Broken window fallacy" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_window_fallacy )

I'm gonna break Godwin's Law here willingly and say that you'd expect Nazis , yes the real-life ones, to say "well we need to wage war to prop up the economy". Hell, that's why Germany went to war. If Germany didn't go to war, its economy would have collapsed under a mountain of inflation from all of the govt spending (especially military, with the 1935 Re-armament onwards and all ) that it was raking up. Hitler's economic measures that bailed out ( you read that right, damn it! ) Germany basically meant 100% Keynesianism : spend, spend,spend, have the government hire everyone they can. Unfortunately, government spending is like drugs : short-term high, long-term rod up the ***. There has never, in history, been a government that could "manufacture" a middle-class, and decent standards of living for most people, all by itself. Exploiting, somebody else, yes, either a sector of its own citizens, or citizens of another country, except that inevitably leads to upheavals. That never lasts.

I have this good friend in the USA, left 2 years ago to work at Microsoft's HQ in Redmond, near Seattle. I kept telling him "Dude, Obama will not challenge the entrenched corporate and military elites because he can't. He'll get assassinated if he does. The bailout won't do jack squat for the economy. Only the corporate aristocracy" (yes you read that fucking right. The USA has an aristocracy . ) He didn't believe me. Now I keep telling him to :
- buy gold
- buy a gun
- listen to Peter Schiff Very Happy

But in all seriousness, I'm a bit of a history buff. I love history. And I've seen this happen before. Economic hardship, military humiliation, wounded national ego, scapegoating "outside" elements. This never ends well for a nation that has such a... well-developed view of itself to put it politely.
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:53 pm

I LOVE HISTORY!
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:52 pm

DacianWolf wrote:
I figured this is the best place to bring this up.

The article below speaks volumes of the kind of crap that passes for "mainstream economic thought" in the USA these days :

"Paul Krugman: Fake Alien Invasion Would End Economic Slump"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/15/paul-krugman-fake-alien-invasion_n_926995.html

Three words : "Broken window fallacy" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_window_fallacy )

I'm gonna break Godwin's Law here willingly and say that you'd expect Nazis , yes the real-life ones, to say "well we need to wage war to prop up the economy". Hell, that's why Germany went to war. If Germany didn't go to war, its economy would have collapsed under a mountain of inflation from all of the govt spending (especially military, with the 1935 Re-armament onwards and all ) that it was raking up. Hitler's economic measures that bailed out ( you read that right, damn it! ) Germany basically meant 100% Keynesianism : spend, spend,spend, have the government hire everyone they can. Unfortunately, government spending is like drugs : short-term high, long-term rod up the ***. There has never, in history, been a government that could "manufacture" a middle-class, and decent standards of living for most people, all by itself. Exploiting, somebody else, yes, either a sector of its own citizens, or citizens of another country, except that inevitably leads to upheavals. That never lasts.

I have this good friend in the USA, left 2 years ago to work at Microsoft's HQ in Redmond, near Seattle. I kept telling him "Dude, Obama will not challenge the entrenched corporate and military elites because he can't. He'll get assassinated if he does. The bailout won't do jack squat for the economy. Only the corporate aristocracy" (yes you read that fucking right. The USA has an aristocracy . ) He didn't believe me. Now I keep telling him to :
- buy gold
- buy a gun
- listen to Peter Schiff Very Happy

But in all seriousness, I'm a bit of a history buff. I love history. And I've seen this happen before. Economic hardship, military humiliation, wounded national ego, scapegoating "outside" elements. This never ends well for a nation that has such a... well-developed view of itself to put it politely.
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:36 pm

Toryin wrote:
Since People call me the conspiracy Guy a lot, i figured i will go ahead and post a few videos here, and you can watch them if you are really interested , Maybe when you have nothing better to do.

Carpe Diem
-Toryin
Ps. if you wish to critisize me because of your own believes , I would suggest to Inform/educate yourself about the topic and look at all the facts, also form your own opinion on this Video Material by wachting, before complaining...Then we can argue on a fair Basis.
Truth is Truth and always gets revealed
The last 3 VIDEOS are highly informative and i once again would like to recommend watching these.
Also if you really watched the viewing material and kind of understand what is really going on you can go all the way down and read what Paul Craig Roberts has to say on his farewell editorial Post, he was The Hottest and most cited Wall street Journal editor on the globe and also former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury.
IT IS WORTH READING and you will thank me if all of this was unknown to you.

lemme start of with something Funny Smile before it gets serious


Jesse ventura knows the Deal ;-) this is so funny

Funny look at joe bidens eyes when the Young Brave American Speaks the Truth :-)


Ok now more serious stuff
Here a Brave (former) Service Members who still puts his life and career on the line defending his country



Here an amateur Vid filmed during explosion(demolition) of WTC7, only the edited version aired on Mainstream TV, without explosion, Several hundred people heard the explosions right before the buildings colapsed




Here starts the Long documentations which you should watch if you really want to b informed
i am sure after watching these you will start on your own research and find out the truth that you believe, Please Dont never believe what others tell you, when it is a topic of such high importance.






everybody has prolly watched this one hear , i dont agree with everyting pertaining religion....but the 2 and 3 are right on

These last ones should get you started on your path for research *G*



NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - 9/11 PENTAGON ATTACK from Citizen Investigation Team on Vimeo.


Truth Has Fallen and Taken Liberty With It

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

There was a time when the pen was mightier than the sword. That was a time when people believed in truth and regarded truth as an independent power and not as an auxiliary for government, class, race, ideological, personal, or financial interest.

Today Americans are ruled by propaganda. Americans have little regard for truth, little access to it, and little ability to recognize it.

Truth is an unwelcome entity. It is disturbing. It is off limits. Those who speak it run the risk of being branded “anti-American,” “anti-semite” or “conspiracy theorist.”

Truth is an inconvenience for government and for the interest groups whose campaign contributions control government.

Truth is an inconvenience for prosecutors who want convictions, not the discovery of innocence or guilt.

Truth is inconvenient for ideologues.

Today many whose goal once was the discovery of truth are now paid handsomely to hide it. “Free market economists” are paid to sell offshoring to the American people. High-productivity, high value-added American jobs are denigrated as dirty, old industrial jobs. Relicts from long ago, we are best shed of them. Their place has been taken by “the New Economy,” a mythical economy that allegedly consists of high-tech white collar jobs in which Americans innovate and finance activities that occur offshore. All Americans need in order to participate in this “new economy” are finance degrees from Ivy League universities, and then they will work on Wall Street at million dollar jobs.

Economists who were once respectable took money to contribute to this myth of “the New Economy.”

And not only economists sell their souls for filthy lucre. Recently we have had reports of medical doctors who, for money, have published in peer-reviewed journals concocted “studies” that hype this or that new medicine produced by pharmaceutical companies that paid for the “studies.”

The Council of Europe is investigating the drug companies’ role in hyping a false swine flu pandemic in order to gain billions of dollars in sales of the vaccine.

The media helped the US military hype its recent Marja offensive in Afghanistan, describing Marja as a city of 80,000 under Taliban control. It turns out that Marja is not urban but a collection of village farms.

And there is the global warming scandal, in which NGOs. the UN, and the nuclear industry colluded in concocting a doomsday scenario in order to create profit in pollution.

Wherever one looks, truth has fallen to money.

Wherever money is insufficient to bury the truth, ignorance, propaganda, and short memories finish the job.

I remember when, following CIA director William Colby’s testimony before the Church Committee in the mid-1970s, presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan issued executive orders preventing the CIA and U.S. black-op groups from assassinating foreign leaders. In 2010 the US Congress was told by Dennis Blair, head of national intelligence, that the US now assassinates its own citizens in addition to foreign leaders.

When Blair told the House Intelligence Committee that US citizens no longer needed to be arrested, charged, tried, and convicted of a capital crime, just murdered on suspicion alone of being a “threat,” he wasn’t impeached. No investigation pursued. Nothing happened. There was no Church Committee. In the mid-1970s the CIA got into trouble for plots to kill Castro. Today it is American citizens who are on the hit list. Whatever objections there might be don’t carry any weight. No one in government is in any trouble over the assassination of U.S. citizens by the U.S. government.

As an economist, I am astonished that the American economics profession has no awareness whatsoever that the U.S. economy has been destroyed by the offshoring of U.S. GDP to overseas countries. U.S. corporations, in pursuit of absolute advantage or lowest labor costs and maximum CEO “performance bonuses,” have moved the production of goods and services marketed to Americans to China, India, and elsewhere abroad. When I read economists describe offshoring as free trade based on comparative advantage, I realize that there is no intelligence or integrity in the American economics profession.

Intelligence and integrity have been purchased by money. The transnational or global U.S. corporations pay multi-million dollar compensation packages to top managers, who achieve these “performance awards” by replacing U.S. labor with foreign labor. While Washington worries about “the Muslim threat,” Wall Street, U.S. corporations and “free market” shills destroy the U.S. economy and the prospects of tens of millions of Americans.

Americans, or most of them, have proved to be putty in the hands of the police state.

Americans have bought into the government’s claim that security requires the suspension of civil liberties and accountable government. Astonishingly, Americans, or most of them, believe that civil liberties, such as habeas corpus and due process, protect “terrorists,” and not themselves. Many also believe that the Constitution is a tired old document that prevents government from exercising the kind of police state powers necessary to keep Americans safe and free.

Most Americans are unlikely to hear from anyone who would tell them any different.

I was associate editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal. I was Business Week’s first outside columnist, a position I held for 15 years. I was columnist for a decade for Scripps Howard News Service, carried in 300 newspapers. I was a columnist for the Washington Times and for newspapers in France and Italy and for a magazine in Germany. I was a contributor to the New York Times and a regular feature in the Los Angeles Times. Today I cannot publish in, or appear on, the American “mainstream media.”

For the last six years I have been banned from the “mainstream media.” My last column in the New York Times appeared in January, 2004, coauthored with Democratic U.S. Senator Charles Schumer representing New York. We addressed the offshoring of U.S. jobs. Our op-ed article produced a conference at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. and live coverage by C-Span. A debate was launched. No such thing could happen today.

For years I was a mainstay at the Washington Times, producing credibility for the Moony newspaper as a Business Week columnist, former Wall Street Journal editor, and former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. But when I began criticizing Bush’s wars of aggression, the order came down to Mary Lou Forbes to cancel my column.

The American corporate media does not serve the truth. It serves the government and the interest groups that empower the government.

America’s fate was sealed when the public and the anti-war movement bought the government’s 9/11 conspiracy theory. The government’s account of 9/11 is contradicted by much evidence. Nevertheless, this defining event of our time, which has launched the US on interminable wars of aggression and a domestic police state, is a taboo topic for investigation in the media. It is pointless to complain of war and a police state when one accepts the premise upon which they are based.

These trillion dollar wars have created financing problems for Washington’s deficits and threaten the U.S. dollar’s role as world reserve currency. The wars and the pressure that the budget deficits put on the dollar’s value have put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block. Former Goldman Sachs chairman and U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson is after these protections for the elderly. Fed chairman Bernanke is also after them. The Republicans are after them as well. These protections are called “entitlements” as if they are some sort of welfare that people have not paid for in payroll taxes all their working lives.

With over 21 per cent unemployment as measured by the methodology of 1980, with American jobs, GDP, and technology having been given to China and India, with war being Washington’s greatest commitment, with the dollar over-burdened with debt, with civil liberty sacrificed to the “war on terror,” the liberty and prosperity of the American people have been thrown into the trash bin of history.

The militarism of the U.S. and Israeli states, and Wall Street and corporate greed, will now run their course. As the pen is censored and its might extinguished, I am signing off.
-edit over
If you are one of the view people who watched these vids and read thru to hear i know that you are awake and i dont want you to go out in rage or do something stupid , but just go on with your life and try to b a good father ,son , brother, husband and help our countrey regain its strength and Dont forget to vote for whoever you think is right also use your right to demonstrate , but never resort to violence because then you will b discredited and only others like you will get hurt.
THX
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There are many more videos but the rest you will have to find out yourself while you seek for info
or just e-mail/PM me

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Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "The end justifies the means." Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven "Who fights can lose, who doesn't fight has already lost" Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:45 pm

I don't really believe Americans would kill their own. No way. Putin, Kim Chen Ir - I'd believe, but not even drunk villager Bush would do that. And not his dad. It's cries of people who want to show that government is S***, and it's either that they are US-haters (sometimes hidden) or they're willing to have another political force running the country. Outside, no one really cares. No one called all those people joined the Armed Forces. If US had conscription system, it would make sense - call out war and drag people in Forces. But since it's voluntary and people had all that talks about "fake" 9/11, it's their own mistake they have stepped into the frame, so there's no need to cry over "innocent military and their families" if you believe in conspiracy of 9/11 thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:30 am

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NATO Slaughter Of Libyan Civilians Continues
By JoAnne Moriarty
8-20-11

You all should know that NATO is rabid to take Zawia so that they can stop ALL supplies to Tripoli. Today, Sky news reported a HUGE LIE about how everyone in Zawia is happy about the rebels (NOT EVER) and the rebels are in control of Zawia (not true). They are now openly admitting that they have foreign troops, weapons, etc., in their midst. This particular reporter was overheard discussing this lie and he stated that NATO had informed HIM that they will kill ANYBODY, to include civilians who get in their way of taking over the Libyan Government. NATO sent 17 bombs into civilian neighbor hoods the night before and they sent Apache gunships into the square in Zawia where the civilians were celebrating the routing of the rebel gangs out of their city. They fired on these unarmed citizens with the gunships and killed many, including the brother of Dr. Moussa Ibrahim.

According to our inside sources, Zawia is the rebels attempt at a "last stand", they are in their death dance and NATO is frantic. They have lost Misurata, they have lost Zlitan, they are not in control anywhere in the west now. So, killing civilians is on the table. What I don't understand is how they think they can take Tripoli when 2 million people here are against them? Most of the Tripoli people are armed now, this country is completely against these rebels, more than 90% - How in the hell do they plan to take over? Who will follow them? It will have to be a police state, NATO has become a terrorist organization, with the western news media in complete compliance.

NATO is using AMERICAN made Apache helicopters to kill innocent civilians who are celebrating the rout of the rebel gangs from their city, the crimes are multiple. First by US law no military weapons of any kind can be used by anyone in aggressive acts, so here is US hardware killing unarmed innocent civilians. Second, NATO was NEVER authorized to fire upon unarmed civilians. Third, the UN was never authorized to fire upon unarmed innocent civilians, so violation of both the UN and NATO charters have occurred. Also, when massive numbers of civilian deaths are involved then violation of International laws have been committed but worse than that is the violation of human rights that have occurred.

We have asked these people what they would do if Ghadafi was killed? They state that any chance there might have been in the past for reconciliation with these rebels has completely disappeared. At one time it may have been NATO against Ghadafi but now it is NATO against the civilians. All the Libyans we meet tell us that they are now fighting for their country and their culture. When NATO blows up a power plant, it does not hurt Ghadafi, it hurts the people, when NATO blockades fuel and food and medicine, it does not hurt Ghadafi, it hurts the people, when NATO bombs the civilian neighbor hoods, it does not hurt Ghadafi, it hurts the people, and the list goes on.

We came here on a fact finding mission and have learned things that have shocked us to our core. We are witness to numerous atrocities by NATO and these so called rebels being supported actively, in any way, by NATO. The treatment of Libyan civilians as if they are not human and have no rights, the blatant killing, raping, murdering and bombing of all kinds of civilians and civilian infrastructure removes any thought of legitimacy that NATO or these rebels could ever hope to garner. We stand as witness to the world and we scream to the world ­ STOP THIS INHUMANITY, STOP THE KILLING, STOP THE SEIGE, on the innocent people of Libya. NATO and their illegal minions do not want to accept that 90% of the Libyan people DO NOT WANT THESE rebels in charge of anything. So, what next, kill 90% of the Libyans? Where is their mantra - "we want democracy?" - Now?

The people of the world need to open their eyes and stand up against these daily crimes against humanity and blatant attempt to over throw a sovereign government which is not permitted by an statute anywhere in the world.
Jimmy and JoAnne

(this can also be found at [link to www.rense.com]
More facts and links:

- Libya is run by a coalition of tribal families. It has NEVER been a dictatorship. Gaddafi simply does not have the power of a dictator.
- most of the rebels are not Libyan civilians. those who are come from tribal families who want more power.
- the people are NOT oppressed, and enjoy state-of-the-art FREE medical and education services
- the whole 'uprising' has been organised from outside the country
- Libya sits on a sea of light crude oil. this is the stuff which sets the price for all other petroleum products. Germany and Italy want this oil.
- Libya has massive underground fresh water aquifers, which the French corporations want (French multinationals control the largest market share of bottled water)
- Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE and other Arab countries have been promised some of the spoils - all of these are western puppet dictatorships
- Libya has significant gold bullion reserves
- Gaddafi has repeatedly warned the west of a looming new world order. He claims to have been invited to join, and refused.
- Gaddafi repeatedly tried to establish an alternative to the draconian money lenders (the IMF and the World Bank). He tried to set up an pan-African equivalent of the Fed, where countries could deposit and borrow from a central bank, WITHOUT the insane conditions levied by the IMF/World Bank gangsters.
- Gaddafi has refused to cooperate with the proposed body to rule Africa - AFRICOM
- Gaddafi has regularly denounced other Arab countries as being the puppet states of France, UK and the USA that they are.
- Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, has been at the forefront of spreading lies and propaganda about Libya. It has a British Intelligence asset.

for these reasons and more, everyone ganged up on Libya - and they are intending to carve it up.

Other facts:

- there was NO massacre of Libyan civilians by Gaddafi forces earlier this year, as claimed by the west for the start of the 'uprising'
- there were NO warplanes strafing civilians - that was all proven to be total bullshit
- the rebels were not winning the hearts and minds of the rest of the Libyan-based tribes - and more Libyans were turning AGAINST the 'rebels'
- it is the rebels engaging with Tunisian forces, not the Libyans


Some links and video to give recent perspective from other independent journalists:

Links to show the rebels are NOT winning as being reported lately on mainstream:



http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26101
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26100


Links about the NATO massacre on civilian targets:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26058
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25966

Link about the lies you are being told:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26084

Link to the UN Human Rights report on Libya, that the US tried to squash last year: (no evidence of abuses!)
http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/16session/A-HRC-16-15.pdf

Link from Russia Today showing those early warplane massacres was a complete fabrication:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHQwjopA83E&feature=player_embedded


Breaking reports indicate the people are uprising en masse all right - but AGAINST the rebels.

This seems to have caused NATO to increase their bombing of civilian areas.

For NATO to win this, they are going to have to bomb nearly every person into submission - which is what they plan to do.

And during all this, you are going to be told that the rebels are on the verge of victory. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Wake up and Face Reality if you claim that you care about Freedom and Democracy , If not then just go back to the Herd and sleep with the other sheeples.

and this is how the occupation of Tripoli took place.

NATO lands a ship full of Al Qaeda and other mercs, plus weapons at Tripoli.

NATO choppers, drones and warplanes hovered overhead strafing and killing civilian defenders as the 'rebels' advanced through the city. They were slaughtering men, women and childrenn from the air while they were running for their lives.

Special Forces and mercs have been actively sniping independent journalists and media, even while staying at the main 'media base' hotel. Franklin Lamb was shot yesterday (alive though)

Here is another report from the ground to give the perspective that CNN, FOX, BBC, and Al Jazeera won't tell you.

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NATO carnage in Tripoli

On Saturday, 20 August 2011, at 8:00 PM, that is to say just after the Iftar, the breaking of the Ramadan fast, the Atlantic Alliance launched "Operation Mermaid."

The "mermaids" are the mosque loud speakers which were used by Al Qaeda to send the signal to start the revolt. Immediately, rebel "sleeper cells" went into action. Small, highly mobile, groups kept multiplying the attacks. The night combats left 350 dead and 3000 injured.

The situation stabilized on Sunday during the day.

A NATO ship docked near Tripoli unloaded heavy weapons and discharged Al Qaeda jihadists, supervised by officers of the Alliance.

The fighting raged again on Sunday night, reaching a rare degree of violence. NATO drones and planes have been bombarding in every direction. Helicopters are strafing people in the streets to clear the way for the jihadists.

In the evening, a convoy of official cars carrying prominent figures was attacked. It took refuge in the Rixos Hotel where the foreign press is staying. NATO would not dare bomb it in order to spare its own journalists. The hotel where I lodge has been under heavy fire.

At 11:30 PM, there was nothing the Ministry of Health could do but to take note that the hospitals are saturated. By early evening there were 1300 additional casualties and 5000 injured.

NATO was entrusted by the Security Council to protect civilians. In fact, France and the UK are now back to resume their colonial massacres.

Monday, 1:00 AM: Khamis Gaddafi personally went to deliver arms to the hotel and left. There is heavy fighting all around.

Thierry Meyssan
http://www.voltairenet.org/NATO-carnage-in-Tripoli



Nato... is a Private Rogue Corporate War Machine.
Tax payer funded of course.

Its... (Natos) job is to replace Local Governments with its own Corporate Friendly Dictators.
Think Saudis.
Nato supports the same group in Libya (also Syria)as supposedly did 9-11
Go figure

They pay their merc. military death squad members extra pay for "Special Missions" (about $10,000.00) by funneling it threw the merc. soldiers government pension plans, hiding said pay as "extra pay for special duties". They can't pay them directly as that would make them "(Nato Special Opps. death squads)" "Mercs". Hence illegal under law. Hiring Mercs. is a war crime on the books.
"Private Contractor" is an alternative name for Mercs.

Nato is the military arm of WALL STREET and could care less about the notion of democracy.
No country that they have gone to has ever been better off after Nato has been there.
Nato views civilian death as "Collateral Damage.
Nato shoots a kid ...it's "Collateral Damage", and if male a terrorist body count #.
Anyone objecting to owning their own county is a terrorist...

Libya is about...
Oil,
Water... See "The Great Man Made River Project,
...and the huge "National Libyan Bank's" foreign investment cash deposits that Goldman S. and other large Bankrupt Banks can now loot are now looting to balance their books.

I hear that Libya's dictator handed out 3 million or so new AKs to the population (brand new... not like the shot out ones we faced in Nato's other invasions)
Imagine.. Nato supports the Terrorist factions,
...using them to break up and destroy any national non "Corporate Wall Street" global national governments.
It is also a military arm led by an extremist bunch of "Christo-Armagedonist Zionist Facists" end timer nut bars looking for the good old end times... of course.


Watch for Syria as Nato's next "Democratic Takeover".
Remember "God" shows his blessings through the wealth that you Steal (Sorry...I mean Receive)

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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:08 am

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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:42 am

Yeah, Toryin, what's up with that? You're scaring the children! Laughing

About Libya, it remains to be seen. Ghaddafi has lost,that much is clear. One dictator less. But who replaces him, that's interesting.

See, there was this guy, Abdel-Fattah Younis, a Libyan commander that defected to the rebels early on. He was assassinated while in custody by rebel soldiers back in July.

Who was his main rival? Khalifa Belqasim Haftar. Haftar was also an officer in Ghaddafi's military,but fell out of favor after Libya lost the Chadian-Libyan war. He found refuge, surprise, in USA . He lived in the USA since 1990s.

How convenient that the dude that spent more than a decade in exile in the USA has come on top...

So yes, it is perfectly plausible that :
a) The rebels will not take kindly to have a US puppet, Haftar, shoved down their throats
and
b) Turn to Islamist militants to lead a "second" revolution to kick out those believed to be sell-outs to the Western powers.

Libya has oil, like Toryin said. And these are tough economic times. Put 2 and 2 together.
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PostSubject: Re: Here a few thinks that may make you think over , Your own True reality   Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:58 am

Skarbrand wrote:
I don't really believe Americans would kill their own. No way. Putin, Kim Chen Ir - I'd believe, but not even drunk villager Bush would do that. And not his dad. It's cries of people who want to show that government is S***, and it's either that they are US-haters (sometimes hidden) or they're willing to have another political force running the country. Outside, no one really cares. No one called all those people joined the Armed Forces. If US had conscription system, it would make sense - call out war and drag people in Forces. But since it's voluntary and people had all that talks about "fake" 9/11, it's their own mistake they have stepped into the frame, so there's no need to cry over "innocent military and their families" if you believe in conspiracy of 9/11 thing.
With all Respect Skarbrand
But i dont Think you really have looked in to the subject AT-ALL, or else you would
not have doubt or BELIEVES and instead would KNOW, simple as that.
Also most of these Military Families dont know what is going on and most Joined Because
of the money and education(also they can travel and see the world)
On the other hand i know a lot of people in the military who learned the truth and they try to apply their knowledge in daily life.
Even Down Range In Iraq and afganistan there is many americans who speak with the locals about 9/11 , The war and so on and become friends with locals, If the forces continue only the path of spilling Blood, there will only grow more resistence. Not everybody is in HATE mode or KILL mode, People just wanna fucking live and only very few (psychos who wanna join because they think they get to kill or Brainwashed Religious Fanatics) want to Die for hate or only just believes. Normal militans(includs the Western Militarys) everywhere , Fight for Freedom, Families, Countrey, Tribe at least in their Mind.
So, people are getting access to information and that is important ,so we know what we are fighting for or really, Why?.
The Educated/Informed people everywhere want to end the wars to Really Serve their countrys and its citizens around the GLOBE.

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