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PostSubject: Marijuana anyone?   Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:59 pm

Your thoughts on it?
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:13 am

Its a waste of money IMO, but to each his own. If the US would legalize it it could severely help out the debt of the country. But politicians are dumb as hell.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:21 am

It's a drug that can kill or ruin someones life. My idea, allow it for medicine. Only medicine. (It's proven to help as a pain reliever) But don't let everyday people roam around with a drug. A drug. Kids die all the time from these kinds of drugs. It's a step back to legalize. Politicians, no matter Republican Democrat or Independent can be idiots sometimes...
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:21 am

Not sure where you are getting where all these people are dying, and I assume to legalize it, the consumption age would have to be at least 18, so yeah. It's not any worse than say cigarettes or alcohol. And that whole "gateway drug" is some BS. Just propaganda to try and scare people into believing marijuana is bad and evil. Haven't seen any of my friends or people I know go and do like meth after smoking some weed...and I know quiet a few stoners.

From my personal experiences with weed was that it was okay, nothing too spectacular. But people should be allowed to choose for themselves.

Edit: Just found this site a little bit ago, pretty good info: http://www.perkel.com/politics/issues/pot.htm

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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:43 am

I was going to post anything on this but here is my shpeal (that a word?) haha anyways. Marijuana has NEVER ever ever EVER killed anyone EVER. Marijuana is the most healthy and most safe drug you can ever take. You look at presciption drugs/Over the Counter drugs and they have tons of side effects. Some that can increase the risks of cancer and some side effects can even kill you! The only side effects of Marijuana is Short term memory loss (not even that bad I will only forget like things i was gunna do or like what i ate for breakfast. But its only when Im stoned). Dont let anyone tell you "if you smoke marijuana your going to fail in life" ive been smoking since 6th god damn grade and im a Senior now. and im getting some damn fine grades. As far as legalization goes it needs to be legalized. Not just for us stoners to smoke in peace but Hemp will seriously help our financial crisis here in america and save the enviroment. Hemp has the most uses than any other plant! It can make oil, cotton, paper. Did you guys know that 1 acre of Hemp is equal to 4.1 acres of trees?! Hemp can potentially save MILLIONS of trees. Hemp can also produce more air than trees hence stoping the greenhouse effect aka global warming.... Anymore S*** to talk about my beloved Maryjane? haha
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:44 am

And you guys wanna hear the truth about weed and all its uses? Check this site out.
http://abovetheignorance.org
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:18 am

Another great site Grim. Hemp alone is enough to justify legalization.

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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:29 am

Exactly but we have ignorant politicians who are to afraid to admit they were wrong!
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:37 am

I graduated highschool, did college credit while there, went to college for free thanks to me, and got my associates. I'm not saying I'm rich and successful, far from it, but my intelligence is all there. And I did this all while being a big time smoker. I had close friends in highschool then ended up doing some very hardcore S***, but I stuck to my mary jane, and the occasional shrooming lol I don't consider weed a drug, its a plant with many great traits. It can be used for over 25,000 products. Its far less dangerous then alcohol or cigarettes. I don't even smoke cigarettes anymore cause of how unhealthy they are. But the illegalization of weed is founded in mostly racism, but now its mostly cuz the Gov makes more money by keeping it illegal. If it became legal, people could grow it themselves, and the big corporations who buy out politicians dont want free products to take away from there profits.


True story of the only time I ever got busted for weed: Me and three friends were cruising in college town, had a ton of alcohol, and two grams of generic weed. They found the alcohol before the weed, and just made us poor it out. But the second they found that little weed, uh oh, GET THE F*** DOWN YOU DRUGGIES! lol jk, but cuffed us and tossed us away. Cost hundreds in bail, and a year of probation. Wow, so the alcohol was fine, but a small amount of weed that would get me buzzed the evil of all evil?

Sure there are bad people out there who smoke weed, but weed does not make people bad, and surely does not kill anyone. If anything, I've learned that two stoned dudes, one driving, the other helping navigate are the safest combination ever of drivers.

Only reason weed could ruin anyones life, its because the laws that get people in trouble for just relaxing with friends, playing games, and watching funny movies. Or some lower to middle class fellow working full time to get bills paid to uncle sam, who needs a stress relief.
Or someone with an eating disorder and needs there appetite back. or someone going through kimo. or someone who just likes to sit in a circle and discuss things.

We all know how crazy and troublesome potheads can be, look at bob marley. with all his talk of love and peace, and getting along with good times.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:42 am

I know pot is fairly okay for MOST people, but I still don't like it, two if my friends are dead because if that drug, the drug itself didn't kill then. It just turned them into a jackasses. I support it for medical reasons, but not for the open public to have.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:47 am

Taylorsux wrote:
I know pot is fairly okay for MOST people, but I still don't like it, two if my friends are dead because if that drug, the drug itself didn't kill then. It just turned them into a jackasses. I support it for medical reasons, but not for the open public to have.

So are you saying there dead to you as friends? sorry to hear that. If you don't mind me asking, what do you mean it turned them into jackasses?
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:04 am

No they are dead, they both died in a car accident, but they where normal people tell I found out they where doing the so called drug about 2-3 years ago, but they started going crazy pretty much. Failed all there classes, It really started going wild after one of them got there drivers license, then they would tailgate other cars, speed. Stuff like that. It was very sad watching two good friends destroy there lifes than the next day you find them on the news. But that's all in the past now. but I'm guessing the 'drug' had the negative affect on them.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:23 am

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No they are dead, they both died in a car accident, but they where normal people tell I found out they where doing the so called drug about 2-3 years ago, but they started going crazy pretty much. Failed all there classes, It really started going wild after one of them got there drivers license, then they would tailgate other cars, speed. Stuff like that. It was very sad watching two good friends destroy there lifes than the next day you find them on the news. But that's all in the past now. but I'm guessing the 'drug' had the negative affect on them.

I'm sorry for your loss, its sad to hear. However, I by no means am trying to offend you when I speak the way I do in support for marijuana. But marijuana has been proven not to cause any 'crazy' psychological effects, other then maybe a first time user freaking out after using it. You sure they weren't abusing any other substances? because it just sounds like they were being irresponsible. Also, marijuana is by no means a gateway drug if saying this drug lead them to do worse things. Scientists are trying to use marijuana to help bad drug addicts even. If it was a gateway drug, the millions of potheads would turn into the millions of crackheads. Once again, sorry for your loss, but sounds like little of your troubles could be blamed on marijuana.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:36 am

It's fine, but sorry it's 2 AM and I should be sleeping. But I didn't clearly explain everything. They where abusing it and where drinking alcohol, but it's hard to explain because Im trying not to Blame pot itself, but 'mixing' pot with beer and other stuff can cause alot of problems. But I'm not exactly against it or with it. I just don't want to use it myself, but again I'm sorry I'm tired so if anything cunfussed you, again I'm sorry.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:46 am

Its fine, I understand. get some rest lol I will be honest to say marijuana can cause a very slight decrease in reaction time, but nowhere near the amount of damage done to a person while intoxicated. Yes, you can get very stoned and it would make you drive bad, but usually when people are that high, they don't wanna get up and go anywhere anyway. But keeping it illegal isn't going to keep people from getting it, to smoke it, then drive. Same is with minors and alcohol. Alcohol is much worse when it comes to affecting your driving skills. I honestly believe a highway with stoned people on it, is safer then one with drunk people. I would also like to add that marijuana does not cause you to want other drugs. Rather, drug abusers use marijuana as a way of relaxing there high. Pot smokers and drug heads who use pot are two different people. Only reason anyone who first smoked pot would use other drugs is because those selling weed could also sell hard drugs. So it would be safer to legalize marijuana, because it would take it off the streets from drug dealers who are pushing actual drugs
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:53 am

I see, I actualy see it more clearly now. Thanks for helping me understand this more. But I'm hiting the sack now, later.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:04 am

In the Netherlands weed is legal, we have special coffeeshops where people can all sorts of weed. And I think it should be legal, in Holland we have a very low amount of drug addicts and I think that that partly is because marihuana is legal.
Personally I'm going to smoke it 1 time, and then never again. That is because I want to try something out before I judge it.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:40 pm

good thinking onraarno
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:56 pm

You're all right, but oh wait?
Do i want to pay a thousand bucks a month for something that increases chance of cancer and is pretty much unhealthy?
NO!

Look at yourselves, defending weed...Its like smoking, it might be in a milder way.
But trust me its never fun to see anyone high on weed,
Think about coming home to your dad being high on weed...He might be super nice or super evil, but that's not his real self!
The point is, weed puts you in an unhuman situation were you don't know what's going on.
Everybody needs atleast 10 minutes a day where you relax by yourself and not think of anyone else.
Weed is the hardest way to do this!

I am sorry guys, but don't make 10 year olds smoke weed.

I also think that the politicians does not allow weed on purpose, in this way it scares the younger people from using it.
I really don't think you should be using weed unless you are 30+ atleast.
I am not saying using weed is wrong, but i am saying that its the cheap way to leave reality.
A good example is to listen to your favourite song and do nothing else, this leaves you out of reality and gives the same effect as weed but without any risks!
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:47 pm

DUDE marijuana is also used as a medical drug
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:55 pm

I was talking about the other uses Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:44 pm

Who says you have to just smoke it?
and on top of that, everyone keeps saying about how it causes cancer, but no one has yet to show me actual reports of ANYONE ever having cancer from smoking weed. I research it all the time, and people ask all the time, how many people have gotten it? they never answer that question, they just reply with an answer saying that it causes it. so give me a news link that has a proven medical report on someone of getting cancer from smoking weed.
then again, tobacco is already a legal product. No ones telling you to take it.

Yeah, in the times I've smoked weed, and seen other people, they become just so INHUMAN. just watch "reefer madness". its documented proof. lol

And don't make 10 year olds smoke weed? your acting like if it becomes legal, children are gonna be forced this stuff. When younger people do drugs, or drink, its due to social reasons, and its up to that kids judgement. If anything, legalizing it would be better, it would take it from those crack and meth dealers (which not all pot dealers are) and put it in a safe enviroment. And politicians keeping it illegal doesn't help that at all. Only reason it keeps kid from doing it is out of fear of getting in legal trouble. Then again, a lot of youth has a natural rebellious nature growing up, so being bad is cool, and government says weed is bad, so that makes weed cool. I don't support this type of mentality at all though towards it.

If your not saying weed is wrong, then don't act like your so against it. I can make it through countless days without smoking just fine, meditate, jam out some tunes. But its nice to just relax at home, get some nice food cooking, play a game, maybe watch a movie, or lay back with the music up, and just puff away. And your right, theres nothing wrong with that. So get rid of a law that says it is. Hell, I want it to at least be decriminalized, because it is no crime.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:58 pm

So wait, if weed is o, WHy are we saying otherwise? There's no reason UNLESS it needs to be controlled.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:12 pm

1. Government makes more money off it by keeping it illegal. THey profit from tickets, arrests, drug busts. Some states if you get caught with a little weed, your looking at jail time, 100s if not thousands in payment, and community service, and probation.

2. Corporations make more money keeping it illegal. A plant like marijuana is easy to grow in a lot of places. It would be hard to turn it into a product because it would be easy for a lot of local business people to grow their own. Tobacco and alcohol companies would take a big hit in their profits, and they do not want that.

3. Racism. Marijuana smoking was brought to light by mexicans and black jazz musicians. and back in those days, did anything to keep other races down, including the crow laws.
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PostSubject: Re: Marijuana anyone?   Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:28 pm

Well, as much as i think that t would help, legalizing weed is impossible due to the brainwashing of the kids in our schools. But personally, anything addictive should be banned.
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