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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:08 pm

The kill if considered murder not defence would have been defined as pre meditated because he chose to pull the trigger
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:13 pm

I thought there ws somthing about NBC editing the orginal 911 tapes and that zimmerman was sewing them for it.

Also I think there is a lot more to the case then what is being let because we have "racial" murders just like this all the time in East and North St.Louis all the time and there is no big covrage. just an obituary in the paper
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:23 pm

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Who said Trayvon Martin was an angel?

Trayvon not being an angel is/was a HUGE part of the defense's credibility or the prosecution's lack of credibility. The media tried to paint Trayvon as an innocent little boy with those pictures of him of when he was like 12 when really, well he has his past as that one guy I quoted pointed out and he was practically an adult.

Are the pasts of these two men not applicable? George Zimmerman who being biracial and standing up for a black man getting beat up and then fighting the police department for the handling of it doesn't mean anything? And Trayvon Martin's history doesn't represent a history of violence that George Zimmerman "supposedly" encountered with him the night of the shooting?

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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:27 pm

I hope everyone read bronx's qoute from his friend. Take a second to let that simmer in.

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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:49 pm

C_KiLaSpEeD_G wrote:
I hope everyone read bronx's qoute from his friend. Take a second to let that simmer in.


I'm still trying to understand Bronx having friends
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:51 pm

Apparently he found out pizza isn't his friend. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:03 pm

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C_KiLaSpEeD_G wrote:
I hope everyone read bronx's qoute from his friend. Take a second to let that simmer in.


I'm still trying to understand Bronx having friends
So you are in agreement with most people's understanding of the case now?

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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:43 pm

Once again, my point is that I agreed to the verdict, but I do notice that racial profiling was a key aspect to this shooting as well. The evidence was clear; Zimmerman did deserve to be innocent, but I for one, find a strong belief that he found Trayvon Martin as a threat, because of his race and his appearance. That's it.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:29 am

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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:03 am

The coverage and people that were following this case closely somewhat amuse me. All they did was feed into the media, helping the make money, off of something that they helped cause. Deadly, yes he was followed because of his race, but that was because the same media covering the story has over the years portrayed minorities as violent criminals based on how a few acted. And its the same few who continue to create bad reflections for all minorities by continuing to say F*** the police and rolling around in gangs. If it weren't for these few, then minorities as a whole would not be seen as all bad, and Zimmerman would not have been influenced by the media throughout his life of this, and Martin would not have been followed and killed. So in my opinion, his death is the media's fault almost as much it is Zimmerman's.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:31 am

Deathdealer96 wrote:
C_KiLaSpEeD_G wrote:
I hope everyone read bronx's qoute from his friend. Take a second to let that simmer in.


I'm still trying to understand Bronx having friends

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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:46 am

I think its sad that tragedys like this happen a lot, FACT is Trayvon seemed more of a threat to begin with cause he was Black ( I am blackamerican and german and have been discriminated against a few times) but also Fact is because of that it is more likely that he was up to no good (especially him beeing a lil Thug), ONLY the SYSTEM and how it developed can be blamed for THAT.
Now What i dont get is why they call zimmerman white when he was also hispanic and also y nobody talks about all the other shootings and why people get up and rally for that S***(as bad as it was) but accept all the other REAL INJUSTICES OVER THE WORLD
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:02 am

Splinter, once again, I completely agree with your input; the gov't should not be involved in this; yes feeling sympathy for the family is acceptable, but the rioting was now; I guess, with the media hyping the story, so did people.

Also Splinter, that happens a lot as well. The deal is, apparently, if you don't join the gang, you don't live the next day. It's sad, and in Chicago it is much worse than here in New Jersey; luckily it never happened to me, but my two friends got jumped (hospitalized even) because they declined joining a gang.

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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:47 pm

It's funny to me.

Black kills Black, no one blinks an eye.

Hispanic kills Hispanic, no one blinks an eye.

White kills White, no one blinks an eye.

White kills Black/Hispanic kills Black, everybody and their mothers go ape-sh%^, destroy things, riot non-stop, burn the American flag, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:33 pm

I just wrote this on facebook. In case no one reads it there, here it is

Well I hope someone reads this, maybe it will make you think about a few things. Then again for some, maybe it won't.

So if there's anyone that's interested in all the wonderful things going on with America and our Department of Justice, you might have heard President Obama and Eric Holder speak out about the case and apparently, completely disagree with the jury. You also might have heard Eric Holder call this an "unnecessary death". Which is weird because I don't think he was there. Were you? A jury acts on reasonable doubt, not assumptions. The basis of what Eric Holder was speaking on were simply thoughts and assumptions. So if the government is so concerned about justice and making this right, how bout they stop taking sides and do what's really right for this country and tell people settle down a bit instead of urging them on. However, after watching five years of this I highly doubt it's capable for them to do so. Take a look at the link I will put in the comments, it's a short read so don't be lazy. Apparently three black men thought that "Two rights make a wrong". After beating the innocent jogger they went on to proclaim "This is for Trayvon". Where's the Justice Department here? Is Obama going to make a statement? Is Al Sharpton going to tell his brainwashed followers to cool down a little bit? No. People will continue to believe they're better and smarter then everyone because of a jury's verdict that didn't go their way. Their greed for "real justice" and "peace" will continue to blind them. They avoid the facts of of George Zimmerman's innocence and forget about the lack of facts the prosecution brought to court. Thanks if anyone read this, enjoy the rest of your week.
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:49 pm

Welcome to America, where you are presumed guilty, and stay guilty even after innocence if proven Laughing 
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:07 pm

The way I see it, Zimmerman shouldn't have confronted Trayvon. But he did and Trayvon obviously escalated the situation by attacking him, forcing Zimmerman to defend himself the best he could, in this case with a gun.

The government getting involved just defeats the purpose of the already broken legal process, treating Zimmerman as if he was guilty right from the start. Just pathetic.

And splinters right, blacks kill other blacks everyday, whites kill whites everyday. You don't here the president and every media source coming out in an outcry. It's all for personal gain, and to even greater divide the country.

My personal favorite part of the trial was the credible witnesses:
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:29 pm

OH MY GAWD HAHAHAHAH Razz

I heard about that but never actually listened to it lolololol
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PostSubject: Re: Zimmerman versus Martin   Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:21 pm

And now a bunch of idiots that didn't get their way decide to cause trouble for everyone.

When the video of the black man beating the white woman in her house while her daughter watched, you didn't see whites out on the streets rioting and protesting.
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