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PostSubject: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:44 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/brandon-j-raub-marine-detained_n_1817484.html

http://truththeory.com/2012/08/21/facebook-posts-land-marine-vet-in-mental-ward-video/

http://reason.com/blog/2012/08/22/why-is-ex-marine-brandon-j-raub-being-he

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2191373/Marine-Corps-Veteran-Brandon-J-Raub-detained-FBI-psychiatric-testing-anti-government-Facebook-posts.html

http://virginiacopblock.org/259/the-rutherford-institute-district-court-refuses-to-stop-transfer-of-marine-brandon-raub-to-salem-psych-ward-3-hrs-away-for-posting-political-views-song-lyrics-to-facebook/

OK i am not so sure if i still wanna move back to the US, things are getting creepy over there.
How the Hell did the Nazis take over our beloved country???? I really do mean that!!!
I have many friends that are vets, manny still serving and many are retired (they retired in germany/france)
I tell you what i would die for these guys not just cause they my friends but also cause they would die for me and not just me but also YOU and the entire country, they sure as hell proved it in vietnam,some twice in Iraq, kosovo,afgahnistan, somalia and 4 guyses fathers in Germany-Japan
Now how in the Hell we gonna let domestic terrorists attack one of our own????
HOW THE HELL?
I spoke with the american legion commander of Europe and he is also looking in to this, i just about had it.
I know a lot of you just swallow anything the MSM feeds you and you are terrified, thinking you need more security n less liberties, i say thats BULLSH..

This quote from this guys here seems to fit very well and i dont care what any of you think that might still be blinded, take your *** to front line/ Open your eyes, and do ur research.

"It pains me to say this but it does seem that the terrorists have won. When peaceful and law abiding citizens living in democratic societies like the USA and the UK are subject to this kind of invasive and highly personal scrutiny I find it difficult to accept that the terrorists have been defeated. What happened to the "you terrorists will not change the way we live our lives" philosophy?"

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Call me what you want if you are too stupid to see whats going on....i dont care anymore
Freedom is not Free and you will have to sacrifice but sure as hell not your libertys xD, True patriots know that....they are not fattened by mickeyD's or cocaine cola they are not zombified by talkshows,commercials tivius stupidus,instead they are knowledgeable about the constitution and their rights, they remain vigilant and are truely concerned about their neighbors, Communitys, country there is only few of them thats the way it goes, it always has been in the Past.... Sad

http://truththeory.com/2012/09/09/fbi-begins-installation-of-1-billion-face-recognition-system-across-america/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuG30df_EE8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT30LWH8p4E&feature=related

Here a good but sad article from paul craig roberts
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Truth Has Fallen and Taken Liberty With It

By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

There was a time when the pen was mightier than the sword. That was a time when people believed in truth and regarded truth as an independent power and not as an auxiliary for government, class, race, ideological, personal, or financial interest.

Today Americans are ruled by propaganda. Americans have little regard for truth, little access to it, and little ability to recognize it.

Truth is an unwelcome entity. It is disturbing. It is off limits. Those who speak it run the risk of being branded “anti-American,” “anti-semite” or “conspiracy theorist.”

Truth is an inconvenience for government and for the interest groups whose campaign contributions control government.

Truth is an inconvenience for prosecutors who want convictions, not the discovery of innocence or guilt.

Truth is inconvenient for ideologues.

Today many whose goal once was the discovery of truth are now paid handsomely to hide it. “Free market economists” are paid to sell offshoring to the American people. High-productivity, high value-added American jobs are denigrated as dirty, old industrial jobs. Relicts from long ago, we are best shed of them. Their place has been taken by “the New Economy,” a mythical economy that allegedly consists of high-tech white collar jobs in which Americans innovate and finance activities that occur offshore. All Americans need in order to participate in this “new economy” are finance degrees from Ivy League universities, and then they will work on Wall Street at million dollar jobs.

Economists who were once respectable took money to contribute to this myth of “the New Economy.”

And not only economists sell their souls for filthy lucre. Recently we have had reports of medical doctors who, for money, have published in peer-reviewed journals concocted “studies” that hype this or that new medicine produced by pharmaceutical companies that paid for the “studies.”

The Council of Europe is investigating the drug companies’ role in hyping a false swine flu pandemic in order to gain billions of dollars in sales of the vaccine.

The media helped the US military hype its recent Marja offensive in Afghanistan, describing Marja as a city of 80,000 under Taliban control. It turns out that Marja is not urban but a collection of village farms.

And there is the global warming scandal, in which NGOs. the UN, and the nuclear industry colluded in concocting a doomsday scenario in order to create profit in pollution.

Wherever one looks, truth has fallen to money.

Wherever money is insufficient to bury the truth, ignorance, propaganda, and short memories finish the job.

I remember when, following CIA director William Colby’s testimony before the Church Committee in the mid-1970s, presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan issued executive orders preventing the CIA and U.S. black-op groups from assassinating foreign leaders. In 2010 the US Congress was told by Dennis Blair, head of national intelligence, that the US now assassinates its own citizens in addition to foreign leaders.

When Blair told the House Intelligence Committee that US citizens no longer needed to be arrested, charged, tried, and convicted of a capital crime, just murdered on suspicion alone of being a “threat,” he wasn’t impeached. No investigation pursued. Nothing happened. There was no Church Committee. In the mid-1970s the CIA got into trouble for plots to kill Castro. Today it is American citizens who are on the hit list. Whatever objections there might be don’t carry any weight. No one in government is in any trouble over the assassination of U.S. citizens by the U.S. government.

As an economist, I am astonished that the American economics profession has no awareness whatsoever that the U.S. economy has been destroyed by the offshoring of U.S. GDP to overseas countries. U.S. corporations, in pursuit of absolute advantage or lowest labor costs and maximum CEO “performance bonuses,” have moved the production of goods and services marketed to Americans to China, India, and elsewhere abroad. When I read economists describe offshoring as free trade based on comparative advantage, I realize that there is no intelligence or integrity in the American economics profession.

Intelligence and integrity have been purchased by money. The transnational or global U.S. corporations pay multi-million dollar compensation packages to top managers, who achieve these “performance awards” by replacing U.S. labor with foreign labor. While Washington worries about “the Muslim threat,” Wall Street, U.S. corporations and “free market” shills destroy the U.S. economy and the prospects of tens of millions of Americans.

Americans, or most of them, have proved to be putty in the hands of the police state.

Americans have bought into the government’s claim that security requires the suspension of civil liberties and accountable government. Astonishingly, Americans, or most of them, believe that civil liberties, such as habeas corpus and due process, protect “terrorists,” and not themselves. Many also believe that the Constitution is a tired old document that prevents government from exercising the kind of police state powers necessary to keep Americans safe and free.

Most Americans are unlikely to hear from anyone who would tell them any different.

I was associate editor and columnist for the Wall Street Journal. I was Business Week’s first outside columnist, a position I held for 15 years. I was columnist for a decade for Scripps Howard News Service, carried in 300 newspapers. I was a columnist for the Washington Times and for newspapers in France and Italy and for a magazine in Germany. I was a contributor to the New York Times and a regular feature in the Los Angeles Times. Today I cannot publish in, or appear on, the American “mainstream media.”

For the last six years I have been banned from the “mainstream media.” My last column in the New York Times appeared in January, 2004, coauthored with Democratic U.S. Senator Charles Schumer representing New York. We addressed the offshoring of U.S. jobs. Our op-ed article produced a conference at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. and live coverage by C-Span. A debate was launched. No such thing could happen today.

For years I was a mainstay at the Washington Times, producing credibility for the Moony newspaper as a Business Week columnist, former Wall Street Journal editor, and former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury. But when I began criticizing Bush’s wars of aggression, the order came down to Mary Lou Forbes to cancel my column.

The American corporate media does not serve the truth. It serves the government and the interest groups that empower the government.

America’s fate was sealed when the public and the anti-war movement bought the government’s 9/11 conspiracy theory. The government’s account of 9/11 is contradicted by much evidence. Nevertheless, this defining event of our time, which has launched the US on interminable wars of aggression and a domestic police state, is a taboo topic for investigation in the media. It is pointless to complain of war and a police state when one accepts the premise upon which they are based.

These trillion dollar wars have created financing problems for Washington’s deficits and threaten the U.S. dollar’s role as world reserve currency. The wars and the pressure that the budget deficits put on the dollar’s value have put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block. Former Goldman Sachs chairman and U.S. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson is after these protections for the elderly. Fed chairman Bernanke is also after them. The Republicans are after them as well. These protections are called “entitlements” as if they are some sort of welfare that people have not paid for in payroll taxes all their working lives.

With over 21 per cent unemployment as measured by the methodology of 1980, with American jobs, GDP, and technology having been given to China and India, with war being Washington’s greatest commitment, with the dollar over-burdened with debt, with civil liberty sacrificed to the “war on terror,” the liberty and prosperity of the American people have been thrown into the trash bin of history.

The militarism of the U.S. and Israeli states, and Wall Street and corporate greed, will now run their course. As the pen is censored and its might extinguished, I am signing off
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:54 pm

Longest post ive ever seen you make Toryin Very Happy


OT: I agree with most of your points Toryin. I've lived here all my life, but lately things have been going to s*** and it saddens me deeply. This was once a great country, but now I don't know what to say.
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:57 pm

CaptEdster wrote:
Longest post ive ever seen you make Toryin Very Happy


OT: I agree with most of your points Toryin. I've lived here all my life, but lately things have been going to s*** and it saddens me deeply. This was once a great country, but now I don't know what to say.
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:09 pm

Ok. THAT is the longest post Ive ever seen you make Razz


Btw, how the hell did you get in touch with the American legion commander of Europe :O
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:18 pm

wow, the title, it's so, LONG. Seriously Toryin? LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:29 pm

CaptEdster wrote:
Ok. THAT is the longest post Ive ever seen you make Razz


Btw, how the hell did you get in touch with the American legion commander of Europe :O
I was born,raised (for the most part) ,worked around the KMC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiserslautern_Military_Community, all my life.
he happens to be my step father xD
http://www.flickr.com/photos/africom/4638459153/ its the black guy xD

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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:10 pm

Thats so cool Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:20 pm

Perhaps that was too subtle. Toryin, please fix the title to be shorter. Should know better than to post that. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:47 pm

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Perhaps that was too subtle. Toryin, please fix the title to be shorter. Should know better than to post that. Thanks!
thx for fixxin trister, i was even trying to cut it before u mentioned but had no clue how to go about it.

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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:46 pm

Well I'll probably get arrested for saying this but sounds like it's time for a revoloution. This country is gone. Well its time to sharpen up the axe, i'm here to sever heads! And come on back to the US, you'll be good help over here real soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:00 pm

Lets stick to Voting for the Right Person.... and then see whats gonna happen xD
I know its just a text from song with the axe part but thats what got Raub in trouble...I know we supposed to have freedom of speech and manny people post song lirics on facebook but dont take any risks sausgoblin.
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:17 pm

Nahhh I'll say what I like. I shouldn't be scared to speak my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:36 am

"Fear to speak, shows the weak."

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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:38 pm

Exactly
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:19 am

I know this topic is old but i was driving today and i saw one of these parked in front of a random warehouse that was just recently built.

I live in the largest town in my state (bout 100,000 people) and this thing wasnt even parked at the national guard armory. Seemed like it was supposed to be hidden in the warehouse where there was probably more. They've also stored a blackhawk, miniguns and all at the airport right across the street. Not to mention the new parking lot next to the warehouse and the airport that has 8 inch thick concrete (can easily hold a tank) next to a large sports complex that has been used by the government in the past for various reasons.
WEIRD S***.
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:22 am

If it was supposed to be hidden, it would have been. It is not a TOP SECRET vehicle, therefore, it's not a big deal. Neat looking ride though. I want two please...
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:02 pm

I know it ain't top secret but why is it therein the first place?
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:56 pm

Moving it around? Testing company? Who knows? All I know is I still want one.
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:06 am

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." - Declaration of Independence United States of America 1776


If they saw it right to go to war in 1776 for the same issue we deal with today, then maybe we need to take a step back and repeat. I am A Marine (once a Marine always a Marine). I have gone to Iraq for this country. But it is getting close to time to fix this government and system before it is to late.
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PostSubject: Re: Former Marine is seized by FBI   Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:10 pm

Jester_TCoD wrote:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." - Declaration of Independence United States of America 1776


If they saw it right to go to war in 1776 for the same issue we deal with today, then maybe we need to take a step back and repeat. I am A Marine (once a Marine always a Marine). I have gone to Iraq for this country. But it is getting close to time to fix this government and system before it is to late.
You know what you are talking about. But many will be afraid and not want to fight until its too late.
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